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Jun 11, 2019

Craig was on with Jim Polito. Today, they discussed the latest goings on with autonomous vehicles

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Transcript:

Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors.

Airing date: 06/11/2019

Autonomous Vehicles

Craig
Hey, good morning, everybody. A little update on Ortiz, he got flown into Boston, the Red Sox flew him in. He's a Boston general, I guess he had like a five-hour operation. And they did more to help with his gunshot wound. It's just crazy. Anyhow, Mr. Technology got pumped off this morning. If this happens, sometimes I'm on a phone call. I am, you know, calling in on the phone to the radio station. I'm talking to them. I got knocked off, and I don't notice that I got knocked off, right. Well, it happened this morning. We will go into some detail about autonomous cars and what that all means including automatic lane change features and those types of things. That's what we talked about this morning with Jim Polito. I thought it was interesting. In fact, that's all we talked about. There are some implications to all this autonomous technology that I don't think many people have really thought about

Jim
Here is our friend, one of the most popular guests on the show. And all around great guy Craig Peterson, our tech talk guru. Good morning to you Craig

Craig
Hey, good morning, Jim.

Jim
Craig we've been spending the morning, the gentleman and I talking back and forth about autonomous cars or self-driving cars. We even get into discussing that adult film that was shot in the front seat of a self-driving Tesla while it was going down the road. We don't need to get into that here. What we want to get into is the question, are these cars ready to hit the road? Are they really prepared to hit the road?

Craig
It's an excellent question. The answer is, and I love this, this explanation that the Wall Street Journal had here about a month or two ago. They were saying driverless cars are 90% here. There's only another 90% left to go.

Jim
See you get it. You get the Tech Talk stuff. And then you get a little bit of comedy. Don't forget to tip your server. So yeah, it does seem that way. Oh, yeah, we're there. But don't try to take a left turn.

Craig
Yeah, exactly. There is a long way to go. There's a lot of acceptance problems still. In fact, I don't know if you're aware of this. But right now human drivers are quote, unquote, these so-called driverless cars. You probably haven't seen one of these.

Jim
Oh, you know what I see it the social justice warriors coming out now. Does the car has feelings? I don't know.

Craig
Here's what's been going on. Several companies have been trying to figure out how people will respond to driverless cars. So what they've done is that they've modified these vehicles, so that they change the driver's seat. So the person is actually sitting there. But they're sitting inside the driver's seat, and they eat. Unless you look very closely, you can't tell there's a person there. And then they have the driver drive the car around. So from just a casual observers point of view, it's just a car driving. You know, it's kind of like those, those body suits. I don't know if you've seen them, and you know, they're completely covered head to toe, yet you can see outright, yeah, the same sort of thing, except they're covered with the fabric of the seat. So they drive these things around. And they've been doing experiments trying to figure out what are we going to do, how we're going to do it? And how people are going to respond things like, you know, do we put a cow catcher on the front or pedestrian capture, right? Do we need to have lights indicating, hey, pedestrians, I'm going to start moving forward now, or I'm going to make a left turn all of these types of things? They've been finding people bullying the cars, knocking them on the hood, stepping into the way of them.

Jim
Oh, my God, you can't do that. These cars have feelings.

Craig
Let's make it even worse. Here's what happened here. When these pretend autonomous cars are driving in traffic, and people notice the car, other vehicles will do stupid things to mess with the autonomous vehicle. They will pull right in front of it, they'll break hard. And the quality of the studies is saying that people are trying to confound these cars, overrule them exploit the driverless vehicles. It has the automakers and tech firms really concerned. Obviously, there's one thing to have technology that works great in a lab, or maybe it works great on the streets of Phoenix, which is where a lot of these tests are going on right now. However when you've got a greedy human driver, and we've all seen them, and of course, it's not on the other guy.

Jim
Of course, it's never the guy in the other cars, always.

Jim
The connection is gone bad. He can't hear me. I'm going to drop the call and have him call back. Because we've lost him. Basically, to recap, where Craig was right now is that Yeah, you've got people out there seeing an autonomous car thinking oh, let me see what will happen if I drive in front of it. Or if I do this, it'll mess things up. That is not good. That is not good. And you know what that is? That's going to be an issue. When you have 50%, autonomous cars on the road, and then 50% of people just driving, because you know this is not going to happen overnight, everybody's going to have a self-driving car. It's just not going to work that way. The way it's going to work is some people are going to have them only like right now very few a tiny percentage of people have a car that will self-drive right now. And that's, that's what worries me. Oh, and by the way, if I can just add here a little personal thing. And I think Steve, you'll get a kick out of this is that, I do know that a substantial portion of the people listening to us right now are in cars. So, what if they could be in the car and be watching a video? You know, or listening to you and me?

Jim
Yeah, well, I mean, the two hours of the show is simulcast if you have charter TV three, channel 193. In general, they're sitting there watching Game of Thrones rather than looking at the road. Yeah, yeah. Well, no, but what I mean is I'm talking job security. I'm being very selfish about this concern. Oh, well, we're fine. Were you sure?

Jim
Oh, yeah. These things? Oh, yeah. I mean, I got I just, I understand what Craig is saying, but I don't I just I don't see how and he sort of touched on it. I don't under I don't see how the autonomous vehicles and humans are supposed to interact together. I just I don't really trust either of them. I don't trust humans behind the wheel. And I don't really trust robots behind the wheel, and you couldn't put the two of them together. I think it's a disaster. Know, people. Look, you will talk about looking for insurance claims gamble, throwing themselves in front of cars, people. Yeah, it's one thing to mess with them. It's another thing to be able to sue Tesla and then get rid of your you know, Geo Prism and gets yourself a nice little upgrade.

Jim
Yeah, well, we'll wait a minute. Hold on think I think about this. Okay. Not to be all science fiction here. But you know, with the, you know, with the artificial intelligence, the whole like the matrix, that movie, like the Terminator, that movie. What if all of a sudden, you know, the car gets mad at you for smacking it on the hood? And speaking of slapping it on the hood. Here is Craig back. I'm sorry, Craig, that connection just went south. You couldn't hear us. And you're, you were like in a tunnel. And again, I think it's the phone. I don't think it's anything other than that. I know, the machines are trying to shut you down. But yeah, Craig, I see you smack the car in the hood. And once we have artificial intelligence, it wants to get even with you. And then it's like, the movie Stephen King the book, Christine. And it's, it's running over your car?

Craig
Yeah. Well, here's another aspect of this. And then Sorry, I lost you there I was going on the spin and then nobody. But let's look at, for instance, people's driving culture. And there's a great article that just came out in Fast Company about a week ago, as well. It was talking about people's preference to drive versus flying. What they found is that people today, if it's a five-hour drive, no matter how long the flight is, if it's a five-hour drive, and if they're going to rent a car, on the other side, two-thirds of people prefer to drive. Yeah, and the numbers changed dramatically. If you've got a 10-hour drive, obviously, the vast majority of people want to fly. However, if it's in the tournament vehicle, a truly autonomous where they can have a nap, they can be there reading, they can be working, having meetings, that number goes way up. And what they found is even in the longest drive that they were looking at, which is a 45-hour drive, right now only one in 10 people would prefer to drive themselves. It's a handful. Think about driving to the airport, right all the crap you have to go through. But with an autonomous vehicle that changes to one in six people would prefer to drive themselves on a 45-hour drive, which means a quarter these stats of the airline industry would lose at least 10% of its travelers. And we're also looking at this change, it's also going to make it so that we don't have to expand our roads. They're thinking we could get, you know, 10 years more on the roadways that we're building or expanding than we would otherwise because the vehicles are going to be moving more progressively. You're not going to have somebody who hits the brakes and causes a major slow down and accidents and things. We're not there yet. There are a lot of companies working on it. Remember Fiat-Chrysler, they just broke off their talks with Reneau, yeah. And they turned around. And they got an agreement with his self-driving technology company in California called Brora. We've got another company out now with what's called LIDAR tech. They just got 170 million dollar funding round for self-driving cars. And this is just fantastic technology. And I've talked with the inventors before. This is the this is going to happen. But as we talked about with the Wall Street Journal, we're 90% there, and we only have 90% to go. Because part of the problem, Jim is we don't really even know what problems we're going to. We're going to have just as we talked about, people believe in these autonomous vehicles. Yeah, we're going to be taking small steps and even Elon Musk is aiming towards the small step category now and is stepping back slightly from as a tundras vehicle stuff, but-but they're coming and they're going to be I think they're going to be a godsend, especially when we're our 80s. Right. Well,

Jim
For the elderly, I think, and for people who may have some type of mobility issue. I think they are going to be helpful. Craig Peterson is our tech talk guru. Now we went off on this topic. He's got many more like, Can you still trust Google? So, if you want to get this information, text My name to this number 855-385-5563. So text Jim, or any questions you have 855-385-5553 Alright, standard data and text rates apply, and you'll get a lot of information, and Craig Peterson will not annoy you and not try to sell you something and not sell your name Craig thanks so much for that. We really appreciate the time.

Craig
Hey, thanks. Take care. Jim. Take care

Jim
When we return a final word. You're listening to the Jim Polito show, your safe space.

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