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Jul 19, 2019

Craig is in the WGAN Morning News with Ken and Matt. This morning we talked about Deep fakes and the future for actors, Why you might want to delete Facebook. and About the new Apple MacBooks.

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Transcript:

Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors.

Airing date: 07/17/2019

Deep fakes and the future for actors, Why you might want to delete Facebook. and About the new Apple MacBooks.

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Craig
Hello again, everybody. Craig Peterson here. I've been thinking about maybe trying to send out a little survey. I don't know, would you guys respond to it? About what content you really would like to see in my security summer? I may end up doing that. Let me know if you think that'd be a good idea because I'm, I'm looking at what we put together, and it's six weeks, five episodes per week. And should we do that I'm looking out my window here. And there's a deer right outside my window eating the grass in the backyard. They've been eating our flowers, and they got into our tomato plants and ate them all. Right now she's just sitting there eating wagging her tail. The chickens are staring at her. Watching her out there. That is so cool. Anyhow, what topics do you want me to cover in this free security summer summit stuff? Please let me know, and I'll be glad to, to bring you up to date on that. Anyhow, this morning, I was on with our friends Ken and Matt. And we got into a couple more things here more about deep fakes. And what is going on? What's the future for actors? And are they going to put these deep fakes humans right out of business? And we talked a little bit more to about deleting Facebook, and I even came up with a couple more reasons to get rid of some of these things and stop using Google and stuff. I don't know. I don't think I'll ever completely stop. But anyway, here we go.

Matt Gagnon
It's that time yet again, ladies and gentlemen, Wednesday at 738 means it is time for a technology update from Craig Peterson tech guru extraordinaire, a friend of the show, and he joins us now Craig, how are you?

Craig Peterson
Hey, good morning doing well but I am not looking forward to these high temperatures

Ken Altshuler
From Oklahoma. That's the difference between you and me, Craig?

Ken Altshuler
Yeah. I was going to ask you about the MacBook Pros. Once again, I have to bring my computer into Apple to fix the T key that fell off. But rather than that, I want to talk about Steve Wozniak first, who, of course, one of the Apple founders, who is saying, and I'm shocked by this, he says, You should delete Facebook. I can't believe he suggests that.

Craig Peterson
Exactly. Well, you know, we've heard so many reasons to remove Facebook right to delete your account to destroy all of that information. And most of them have to do with privacy. And you know, it's a legitimate argument. But it also sucks.

Matt Gagnon
FaceTime, or what is it that you call my face? Face my face by my face? Yeah, my face,

Ken Altshuler
Face, my face, face,

Craig Peterson
Face to face. There you go, My space. One of the big reasons for this something that I'm sure Matt knows about it. We've had some fascinating revelations that came from Project Veritas. These are guys going to go and do these interviews with people and they tape them without anybody's knowledge, and then they report on it. Well, there is a huge deal going on right now when you are talking about Facebook and Google. And remember, Facebook isn't just Facebook anymore. Now they've got a bunch of different platforms that people are using to communicate. But the real big deal has to do with the manipulation that's going on. There's a new site up right now called Spinquark (https://news.spinquark.com/), you might want to check it out. And the first link there on their homepage takes you to a fascinating article. And what these guys did is they went online to LinkedIn. And they searched around LinkedIn for the senior people on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook. Were talking about the upper-level managers, directors, etc. And what they found was in all of these companies, of the predominance of them were left-wing, I mean, really left-wing. They found 31 people who were senior people in the Obama campaign and administration, who were all senior managers of these social media companies. 25, associated directly with the Clinton administration, and the Clinton Foundation. 16, who came straight out of the DNC, the Democratic National Committee, and five who worked directly for Speaker Pelosi. When you're talking about people like this, who are involved in very high levels on everything from who should be censored, what should be censored, and what can be said. Then have some of these people coming out directly saying that we cannot allow a mistake like President Trump to occur again. We must do everything we can to stop it from happening again. The Los Angeles Times is even reporting on this right now. Although it came out a few months ago. There was a psychiatrist out there in San Diego, who had done a bunch of research, he looked at several people 47,000 searches that were done by undecided voters. And he looked at three specific newly elected democrat reps from 2018, Porter, Rouda and Levin. He looked at the searches that were done in their districts to try and figure out is there a tie? And if these conservative people had a point. His research found that based on their searches about 35,500 undecided voters or who were on the fence could be persuaded to vote for democrats. How? Entirely due to the "news" that they saw on their feeds from these social media and news sites. We've got to think when we're thinking about a Facebook account, or even at Google, where we're doing searches about things from poisonings search results, which can be kind of fun sometimes to do. So what will happen is someone's searching for something, then you can manipulate the search engine to give them a different result. And maybe it should carry through a Facebook. So for instance, when you first got your Facebook account, and you followed someone, you imitate the celebrity, you would get all of their posts and your feed. And then what Facebook did is they said, Hey, listen, you know this is a little much, we should probably give them information we think they might interest them. If someone mentions a birthday or Congratulations, those are more likely to show up in your Facebook feed, then anything else, frankly. If they are friends of yours and are sharing something more likely to show up in your feed. But now it's come out just this past week, that, in fact, for part of what they're doing is they are purposely manipulating your feed to sway you. Now, when we're talking about influencing you to remember how these guys make money, they make money through advertising, they make money by selling things. So if they have an advertiser that's selling something that you might not otherwise be interested in, show you that end. But it turns out that there may be a lot more manipulation going on, then we thought, and they might even be trying to get you to do into a whole new category of products. Or in this case, also the Los Angeles Times reported. And this is professor, author of algorithms of oppression, how search engines reinforce racism, how they are using their power, by being such big powerhouses in the social media search spaces, to manipulate undecided people. That's what this particular study was about, into voting for the Democrats. So fascinating stuff, you know, because you, you get information from every direction. And nowadays where we've got these photorealistic videos, where they're pasting people's faces, other people's faces on to other people's bodies, etc. And it's hard to tell, how can you know what's right or wrong? You have to listen to Ken, Matt, and Craig. Mm-hmm.

Ken Altshuler
All right, we're on with Craig Peterson the tech guru joins us periodically. Now let's talk about MacBook Pro. Shall we buy new ones or are they're not changing. The keys now are that you just you're never going to give up the key thing? I'm not, and it is unbelievably irritating to me. Yes.

Craig Peterson
They are. The latest rumors are they're going to whole new design. They're getting rid of the butterfly design entirely. After three iterations, I think it has been event butterfly keyboard design, that has been a disaster, they are going to be switching. And what it does mean is a slightly thicker computer. I think it's like a few millimeters thicker. Like who cares, right, two or three millimeters, it's going to be slightly thicker. To use different technology, they're not going to go back to the old Chiclets designs, which I kind of like, but they are going to change it. So can you can about time rest easy. Yeah, this is a rumor. You don't know this, the Chinese manufacturers that all of a sudden cancel. So other keyboard orders because they got a large order from some Unknown, Unknown manufacturer. It's all tied back to Apple. But they did do a couple of significant changes here recently in the Mac Book line just within the last two weeks. And those do not have these significant changes yet, so we should be seeing them come this fall.

Matt Gagnon
We're talking to Craig Peterson, our tech guru. He joins us at this time every Wednesday to go over the world of technology. Craig, I have to ask you about one of the more interesting stories here in your rundown about the future of acting because you see increasingly in a lot of movies. Actors do age to look sort of kind of like they used to 20 years ago you're seeing dead people come back into movies. Well, exactly. I mean, you got the new Star Wars movie coming out later this year the test her, and she's dead. And you had the guy from the very first Star Wars movie, who was put into the last the Rogue One Star Wars movie there. There are holograms of dead people like singing with people in Vegas. You know, there's just crazy stuff happening. I guess the question comes down to this. Will we even need actors anymore in the future or work everywhere? Can we can we can produce? It is, you know, fake or digitally created person to act for us and the future?

Craig Peterson
Do you remember the movie, Simone? Did you see that with Al Pacino?

Matt Gagnon
I did see that movie, believe it or not?

Craig Peterson
Yeah, it's spelled S-I-M-O-N-E. Exciting movie because it's taking this on head-on. And what happens in this movie, it just the basic I'm not going to give it away here even right on what writers in this movie. But it's an artificially created actress. And you have someone who is still voicing that who's always talking who's again doing the acting. That's our next step. You even will have an actor like the terrible job they did with Carrie Fisher phase in Rogue One was awful.

Matt Gagnon
Targeting grandma off-target was not that great either. That way. There's that uncanny valley thing where it's like, and you could tell Something's Weird About It. You know, even though it sort of looks real. It looks a little rubbery or something. Something's messed up with it. Like they're not quite there yet. They're closed, but they're not

Ken Altshuler
All the way scar.

Craig Peterson
Yeah, it'll be about five to 10 years. And here's why it's going to take a little while. Our brains are excellent at being able to tell the difference between phasers, and you know, you think about it, and how can we tell you two apart? You guys look identical? No, we do.

Ken Altshuler
We like twins.

Craig Peterson
It's like twins, and it's like five years different. You know, you could argue it. So how can we tell people apart? Well, because our brains have become very, very good at recognizing faces and, and flaws. So anything that shows even a little wrong, you look at like if you look at somebody get plastic surgery, most of the time, you can say oh my god, they need to see a new person plastic surgeon is you can tell. So it's going to be a while yet before we get to this. We've got the further live interaction with Dumbo. And with the Lion King, that's coming out with some animation. CGI, this computer-generated stuff is excellent. When there's not a human face a real human face involved. Stylized, it's very acceptable. For instance, a leader I don't know if you saw that latest movie, where again, it's computer-generated, but it looks computer-generated. Yeah, they made the eyes big and stuff to say, yeah, yeah. So that you don't catch it. How long man, it's not going to be very long, frankly, we're going to be able to with within five years, we'll see this being relatively commonplace. And within ten years, only the best the biggest blockbusters are going to have real people, you know, in every role in there. Because there are some things that humans can't do, even if they have a stunt double. And you will be able to do with science fiction and stuff with some of these fake actors here. Frankly, I think it's kind of cool. I think it's kind of scary. You know, I think we've talked before a little bit about the risks to our security. When it comes to this. We've already got new emails coming in telling the CFO to send money to some vendor that isn't a real vendor, and they're trying to scam us right with phishing attacks. Artificial Intelligence is going to get more involved with this. That's going to improve it dramatically. That's why I say in five to 10 years. I think most actors and actresses are not going to be able to have a job doing that anymore. Voice actors probably sell for a while, but even that's going to go away.

Matt Gagnon
Well, considering the Emmy nominations and probably wouldn't be any significant loss anyway. Craig Peterson Tech guru joins us every Wednesday. 738. Thank you, Craig. We'll talk to you next week.

Craig Peterson
Hey, gentlemen, take care. Bye-bye.

Ken Altshuler
Alright, so we're going to go to a quick break here. When we come back.

Craig Peterson
If you do have suggestions on topics you want me to cover in this security summer, email me at Craig Peterson dot com. That's me at Craig Peterson dot com. All right, everybody. Take care.

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